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So here's the thing.

Ranty reactions to SPN 5x10 under the cut. A more squeeful poll follows.


I don't think I've ever found the Supernatural isms fail to be so distracting as I did this week. (Did I make a mistake and watch Glee instead? OH SNAP)

This is pretty much why we need more shows with female leads. The power balance is so inherently skewed when it's all men (and presumably cismen) in the key position that this is the kind of garbage that happens way too easily.

It's bad writing too; women sacrificing themselves nobly so that the men can go on is an old narrative the writers are likely falling into without even thinking. That Ellen's death is more about Jo is nice, but it doesn't change the fact that they're both dead. (I have always wished for a female Doctor Who, because OMG THE GENDER NARRATIVES, except that I doubt that the ensuing male companions would receive the same written treatment as the women have gotten. Which isn't a bad thing, just telling.)

Can someone give me an instance of another functional (or mostly, because I'm willing to allow for the 'verse being what it is) duo, trio or more of women that didn't ultimately turn on itself? Because I think the show just killed off its first and last. Edit: We did have Ruby and Lilith! Who are also dead.

Also, the able-bodied line. Do they even realise that they're devaluing their own characters? Not to mention their fans?

I want to write Deanna and Mary bonding times and also maybe Bobby as a transman. And something to please finally address the fact that Bobby's house seems unchanged despite his disability. Accessibility: it's not just magic.


OKAY, NOW THE SILLY PART. Poll under the cut. (I forgot the other option, no biscuit for me. Leave a comment if I am clearly wrong and missed the very best bit.)


[Poll #1487989]

Date: 2009-11-20 05:14 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] coyotesuspect.livejournal.com
I feel like a jerk because I just stopped by to vote in the poll. BUT I WILL BE BACK LATER WITH A PROPER COMMENT THAT WILL MOSTLY AGREE WITH YOU.

Also, lmao at the Glee line. How very, very true.

Date: 2009-11-20 05:27 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] akeyoftime.livejournal.com
Polls are meant to be shiny and distracting, so we'll let you off of the the hook. THIS TIME

Date: 2009-11-20 10:12 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] lynzie914.livejournal.com
I have to agree. I found their death incredibly sad but I would have much rather seen them go out a different way. One where they were fighting to the death. It was noble, but I agree not really what I would have wanted. And I agree, as much as I love spn and the brothers, they tend not to show women in the best light. It is very much a man's show.

Oh and I went with trying to get Castiel drunk, because I thought it was hilarious. But I also like Jo turning Dean down.

Date: 2009-11-20 11:50 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] akeyoftime.livejournal.com
I cried my way through their final scene, but in the end I'm disappointed with the execution. I wonder sometimes if the writers know just how much it is a man's show; they can't be totally blind to it, or I'd hope not anyway.

The Cas and alcohol scene was this delightful little moment that someone should be patted on the back for dreaming up.

Date: 2009-11-24 10:30 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] slartibartfast.livejournal.com
And something to please finally address the fact that Bobby's house seems unchanged despite his disability. Accessibility: it's not just magic.

This has been bugging me every time there's a scene with Bobby.

I try so hard to ignore the lack of female characters that don't die in Supernatural but it's difficult. It saddens me so much! I miss Jo, Bela, Anna, Pam... etc. It's so irritating.

I'm with you on wanting a female Doctor!

Date: 2009-11-24 10:43 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] akeyoftime.livejournal.com
This has been bugging me every time there's a scene with Bobby.
Also things like, how did he load his wheelchair in and out of the truck when he drove down to the boys in "The Curious Case of Dean Winchester". And when did they make the truck accessible?

I'm really glad we got to see Bobby struggle with disability (mine is acquired it took me years to stop asking "Why me?") and I'm glad there's been no quick fix, but so many unanswered questions!

I'm still quietly hoping that we'll have Anna back. Clearly, writing will have to be done. And do you know [livejournal.com profile] girl_doctor? So far my favourite fanon permutation of a female Doctor, even if the community is fairly inactive now. (Bonus points for being a femslashy canon!)

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